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		<title>By: Ideas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright, I&#039;m gonna put in my argument here for the hell of it. I&#039;ll mention both sides, try and remain as unbiased as I can. For those that don&#039;t like lengthy rants/analaysis, I warn you: SKIP NOW!

First off, let&#039;s start with the trailer itself, shall we? In my view, it seems rather blown out of proportion, being a nice idea but far too vague to truly satisfy. Then there&#039;s the &#039;upgraded graphics&#039; idea. Perhaps a fun notion, and has potential for those aesthetic-bound. In total, the preview for this Aion &quot;Vision&quot; has a great level of potential, but has been overdone, like a great preview for a movie that could be movie of the century, or could sink without a trace. 

Second, the &#039;lore&#039; that I&#039;ve heard incidents of people complaining about. It&#039;s a brand new game, new universe with a SHIT-ton of room to grow. Kinda like Starcraft before the books, or the beginning of the Warcraft Saga with Orcs and Humans to put a couple out there. Give that some slack and let it grow. 

Third, the low amount of players in the game. Yes, it has been in Asian countries for a year, but unless they get a decent percentage of the population of say... China or India, you can&#039;t really count. On top of that, how many games do you hear about that are exclusively in Asian countries? Little to none, word does not spread from there about gaming easily for some reason. Yes, the brand has games like City of Heroes/Villians or Lineage, but on the flipside, they&#039;re trying for something rather new in the MMO industry, which is good looks and decent mechanics, which they haven&#039;t done completely abysmal on the mechanics but need serious help if this is to take off good and even dream of competing against big established WoW with 11mil+ people. In the end on that part, I would say wait and see how they handle problems players have, and bugs they experience.

*takes a breather*

Fourth! The infamous grind. Dear christ people, it&#039;s an MMO. Expect there to be a grind. Given, the grind is far too much growing at an exponential rate per level. However, you don&#039;t see people bitching about their fifth or sixth top-level on WoW, now do you? That being said, reducing the XP requirement for levels will help the game&#039;s stance that much more. 

Fifth, the bugs. Dear christ on a motherfucking crutch. The main thing I seem to hear about is bugs in this game when I hear complaints. &quot;This is too weak; I&#039;m unable to finish so-and-so quest objective.&quot; We get it. It has been out for a year in Asia, but you have to keep in mind, due to the huge revamp in code they did, things are going to be a lot more buggy for a game that&#039;s supposed to be a year old. Dumb move for them to rewrite everything, but it&#039;s their cross. Keeping that in mind, allow them some slack because of such. 

Alright! I&#039;ve gotten all I can think of. Anything you guys think I should mention, or would you prefer me to shut up now? :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright, I&#8217;m gonna put in my argument here for the hell of it. I&#8217;ll mention both sides, try and remain as unbiased as I can. For those that don&#8217;t like lengthy rants/analaysis, I warn you: SKIP NOW!</p>
<p>First off, let&#8217;s start with the trailer itself, shall we? In my view, it seems rather blown out of proportion, being a nice idea but far too vague to truly satisfy. Then there&#8217;s the &#8216;upgraded graphics&#8217; idea. Perhaps a fun notion, and has potential for those aesthetic-bound. In total, the preview for this Aion &#8220;Vision&#8221; has a great level of potential, but has been overdone, like a great preview for a movie that could be movie of the century, or could sink without a trace. </p>
<p>Second, the &#8216;lore&#8217; that I&#8217;ve heard incidents of people complaining about. It&#8217;s a brand new game, new universe with a SHIT-ton of room to grow. Kinda like Starcraft before the books, or the beginning of the Warcraft Saga with Orcs and Humans to put a couple out there. Give that some slack and let it grow. </p>
<p>Third, the low amount of players in the game. Yes, it has been in Asian countries for a year, but unless they get a decent percentage of the population of say&#8230; China or India, you can&#8217;t really count. On top of that, how many games do you hear about that are exclusively in Asian countries? Little to none, word does not spread from there about gaming easily for some reason. Yes, the brand has games like City of Heroes/Villians or Lineage, but on the flipside, they&#8217;re trying for something rather new in the MMO industry, which is good looks and decent mechanics, which they haven&#8217;t done completely abysmal on the mechanics but need serious help if this is to take off good and even dream of competing against big established WoW with 11mil+ people. In the end on that part, I would say wait and see how they handle problems players have, and bugs they experience.</p>
<p>*takes a breather*</p>
<p>Fourth! The infamous grind. Dear christ people, it&#8217;s an MMO. Expect there to be a grind. Given, the grind is far too much growing at an exponential rate per level. However, you don&#8217;t see people bitching about their fifth or sixth top-level on WoW, now do you? That being said, reducing the XP requirement for levels will help the game&#8217;s stance that much more. </p>
<p>Fifth, the bugs. Dear christ on a motherfucking crutch. The main thing I seem to hear about is bugs in this game when I hear complaints. &#8220;This is too weak; I&#8217;m unable to finish so-and-so quest objective.&#8221; We get it. It has been out for a year in Asia, but you have to keep in mind, due to the huge revamp in code they did, things are going to be a lot more buggy for a game that&#8217;s supposed to be a year old. Dumb move for them to rewrite everything, but it&#8217;s their cross. Keeping that in mind, allow them some slack because of such. </p>
<p>Alright! I&#8217;ve gotten all I can think of. Anything you guys think I should mention, or would you prefer me to shut up now? <img src='http://www.spooncraft.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Spooner</title>
		<link>http://www.spooncraft.com/the-pit/ncsofts-aion-vision-trailer-unimpressed/comment-page-2/#comment-26509</link>
		<dc:creator>Spooner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing you really said with this entire reply was &quot;Your review was bad.&quot;

The rest is just fluff. I give it a C- because you beat out the bell curve of readers by using complete sentences, proper grammar, and good paragraph structure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing you really said with this entire reply was &#8220;Your review was bad.&#8221;</p>
<p>The rest is just fluff. I give it a C- because you beat out the bell curve of readers by using complete sentences, proper grammar, and good paragraph structure.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.spooncraft.com/the-pit/ncsofts-aion-vision-trailer-unimpressed/comment-page-2/#comment-26500</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok I have nothing against you as a person but that review was pretty... well bad.
 I agree completely about NCsoft&#039;s competence level and think they dream way 
too much but I don&#039;t think your review was backed up by very much information
 and you were relying entirely on your fan base to back you up. 

This bit cracks me up 
&quot;Sometimes I give news and unbiased reports. Sometimes I give insight and advice. Sometimes I give opinionated editorials. Sometimes I post pretty pictures of attractive women in compromising poses.&quot;

One thing I will say is you would beat Obama in an election with that statement any day, but what it wont do prove that your review wasn&#039;t very good and hay, you couldn&#039;t do any better than NCsoft making an MMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok I have nothing against you as a person but that review was pretty&#8230; well bad.<br />
 I agree completely about NCsoft&#8217;s competence level and think they dream way<br />
too much but I don&#8217;t think your review was backed up by very much information<br />
 and you were relying entirely on your fan base to back you up. </p>
<p>This bit cracks me up<br />
&#8220;Sometimes I give news and unbiased reports. Sometimes I give insight and advice. Sometimes I give opinionated editorials. Sometimes I post pretty pictures of attractive women in compromising poses.&#8221;</p>
<p>One thing I will say is you would beat Obama in an election with that statement any day, but what it wont do prove that your review wasn&#8217;t very good and hay, you couldn&#8217;t do any better than NCsoft making an MMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.spooncraft.com/the-pit/ncsofts-aion-vision-trailer-unimpressed/comment-page-2/#comment-26069</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scarly, was that nigh illiterate attempt at a flame aimed at me, Spooner, or both of us?

If me, well, for one I&#039;d bet Spooner cares (perhaps not much, but enough to at least reply -- and bonus, he actually typed a coherent post with full on words) since we were having a discussion about things we had in common - IE having gotten started on MMOs in FFXI. =)

Spoon, you&#039;re right, the Aion fanbois ARE funny! I withdraw my request to have you nuke the Aion stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scarly, was that nigh illiterate attempt at a flame aimed at me, Spooner, or both of us?</p>
<p>If me, well, for one I&#8217;d bet Spooner cares (perhaps not much, but enough to at least reply &#8212; and bonus, he actually typed a coherent post with full on words) since we were having a discussion about things we had in common &#8211; IE having gotten started on MMOs in FFXI. =)</p>
<p>Spoon, you&#8217;re right, the Aion fanbois ARE funny! I withdraw my request to have you nuke the Aion stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Scarly</title>
		<link>http://www.spooncraft.com/the-pit/ncsofts-aion-vision-trailer-unimpressed/comment-page-2/#comment-26066</link>
		<dc:creator>Scarly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well good ur opinion dosent matter for shit...
U rly think ppl care about u or what u THINK or LIKE..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well good ur opinion dosent matter for shit&#8230;<br />
U rly think ppl care about u or what u THINK or LIKE..</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.spooncraft.com/the-pit/ncsofts-aion-vision-trailer-unimpressed/comment-page-2/#comment-25994</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FFXI was my first MMO too, but I really can&#039;t say I have any great feelings of nostalgia for it. It was pretty cool at the time until I clued into the endless grind and the roadblock mechanics in place to keep you slaving away. =)

I /did/ learn some good habits there though, like about being prepared with consumables, and those lessons serve me well to this day in WoW.

Tried LotRO -- it might surprise you but I&#039;m a big Tolkien buff, shocking I know. =) The gameplay was so lacklustre it just didn&#039;t make up for the fanboi moments in between when I got to squee at Wethertop, or the Prancing Pony, or the Party Tree. =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FFXI was my first MMO too, but I really can&#8217;t say I have any great feelings of nostalgia for it. It was pretty cool at the time until I clued into the endless grind and the roadblock mechanics in place to keep you slaving away. =)</p>
<p>I /did/ learn some good habits there though, like about being prepared with consumables, and those lessons serve me well to this day in WoW.</p>
<p>Tried LotRO &#8212; it might surprise you but I&#8217;m a big Tolkien buff, shocking I know. =) The gameplay was so lacklustre it just didn&#8217;t make up for the fanboi moments in between when I got to squee at Wethertop, or the Prancing Pony, or the Party Tree. =)</p>
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		<title>By: Spooner</title>
		<link>http://www.spooncraft.com/the-pit/ncsofts-aion-vision-trailer-unimpressed/comment-page-2/#comment-25947</link>
		<dc:creator>Spooner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s more amusing to see people still defending the game when it&#039;s fallen so fucking deep into obscurity that it&#039;s downright laughable. The saddest part is they&#039;ll never &quot;shut down servers&quot; and finally kill that piece of shit game because of the nation of robots in Korea right now stuffing the coffers with money. Their community had promise, it failed. The game has great graphics, guest what, so does every other MMO out there yes including WoW with the new overhaul in Cataclysm. 

I&#039;ll never put investment at all into any Asian MMORPG again with the exception of Final Fantasy XIV because it&#039;s a spiritual successor to FFXI which was my very first MMORPG ever; so it has a soft spot in my heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s more amusing to see people still defending the game when it&#8217;s fallen so fucking deep into obscurity that it&#8217;s downright laughable. The saddest part is they&#8217;ll never &#8220;shut down servers&#8221; and finally kill that piece of shit game because of the nation of robots in Korea right now stuffing the coffers with money. Their community had promise, it failed. The game has great graphics, guest what, so does every other MMO out there yes including WoW with the new overhaul in Cataclysm. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll never put investment at all into any Asian MMORPG again with the exception of Final Fantasy XIV because it&#8217;s a spiritual successor to FFXI which was my very first MMORPG ever; so it has a soft spot in my heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.spooncraft.com/the-pit/ncsofts-aion-vision-trailer-unimpressed/comment-page-1/#comment-25944</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aion is definitely not the future of gaming. =) Aion appeals to a very small segment of the gaming community, people who enjoy endless grinding which IS the reward, instead of taking you TO a reward.

Aion is not fun after level 20.

Aion does have some brilliant graphics and man did they do a great job of spin-doctoring their ads so the game looked fresh and inviting. Personally I really wanted to love it, I was all set to cancel my WoW Subscription.

Then I played it.

For months.

Never again. =) I did a quick check of the NCSoft Aion forums -- it really (did not) surprise me to see that the posts there were the same drivel I read there months ago. The same issues are unresolved. The herd of asshats treating each other like shit.

Hey Spoon, maybe you should just nuke all the links to AIon stuff here, not like it is or ever will be relevant to anything again. =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aion is definitely not the future of gaming. =) Aion appeals to a very small segment of the gaming community, people who enjoy endless grinding which IS the reward, instead of taking you TO a reward.</p>
<p>Aion is not fun after level 20.</p>
<p>Aion does have some brilliant graphics and man did they do a great job of spin-doctoring their ads so the game looked fresh and inviting. Personally I really wanted to love it, I was all set to cancel my WoW Subscription.</p>
<p>Then I played it.</p>
<p>For months.</p>
<p>Never again. =) I did a quick check of the NCSoft Aion forums &#8212; it really (did not) surprise me to see that the posts there were the same drivel I read there months ago. The same issues are unresolved. The herd of asshats treating each other like shit.</p>
<p>Hey Spoon, maybe you should just nuke all the links to AIon stuff here, not like it is or ever will be relevant to anything again. =)</p>
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		<title>By: Aion Opinion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aion Opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would it also be fair to mention that in 2007 some employees of ncsoft attempted to sell the coding of Aion to a company in japan.  because of this ncsoft had to redo all coding in the game.  these employees tried to get a job with sony i hear (lol).  anyway, if they can pull that off before release, they surely pull off the giant golem feature.

in my short lifetime so far i have seen games go from the old DOOM and NES to games like Aion and L4D and any other game with awesome grahics.  the next years coming up i&#039;m sure we can only imagine what changes are coming.

welcome to the future of gaming.  it&#039;s changing and getting better whether you are aware of it or not</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would it also be fair to mention that in 2007 some employees of ncsoft attempted to sell the coding of Aion to a company in japan.  because of this ncsoft had to redo all coding in the game.  these employees tried to get a job with sony i hear (lol).  anyway, if they can pull that off before release, they surely pull off the giant golem feature.</p>
<p>in my short lifetime so far i have seen games go from the old DOOM and NES to games like Aion and L4D and any other game with awesome grahics.  the next years coming up i&#8217;m sure we can only imagine what changes are coming.</p>
<p>welcome to the future of gaming.  it&#8217;s changing and getting better whether you are aware of it or not</p>
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		<title>By: Ariel</title>
		<link>http://www.spooncraft.com/the-pit/ncsofts-aion-vision-trailer-unimpressed/comment-page-1/#comment-25927</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it may also be within the limits of this topic to say that Aion won the award for &quot;Best MMORPG&quot; of the year.  This contest judges not just by the graphics of a game but by gameplay, popularity, and simply the entirety of a game.  

It didn&#039;t win this game for &quot;poor mechanics&quot; or for being a &quot;lackluster company&quot;.

Again, your opinion is respected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it may also be within the limits of this topic to say that Aion won the award for &#8220;Best MMORPG&#8221; of the year.  This contest judges not just by the graphics of a game but by gameplay, popularity, and simply the entirety of a game.  </p>
<p>It didn&#8217;t win this game for &#8220;poor mechanics&#8221; or for being a &#8220;lackluster company&#8221;.</p>
<p>Again, your opinion is respected.</p>
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